motley crue 11:11 Sun Jan 3
Making a Murderer *Updated* 15/11
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on Netflix, really enjoyed it.
Not going to give any spoilers away but for those that saw it, what do you think?
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y2smif
11:26 Sun Jan 3
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Don't piss the police off in wisconsin.
The whole case was an utter shambles and if he wasn't framed, then they made a right pigs ear of the investigation and evidence collection.
It was obviously made from a defence standpoint and was made to get you to think he was innocent (which I do).
You can tell that a few of the prosecution definitely had it in for him, that Ken Kratz couldn't stop smiling at the press conference explaining what [he thought] happened.
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y2smif
11:27 Sun Jan 3
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Brilliant documentary either way
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motley crue
12:09 Sun Jan 3
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Y2smif, I agree plus Brendan too appeared to be well and truly stitched up.
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madeeasy
9:48 Mon Jan 4
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I have just watched it fully and can not believe what a stitch up it was.
I think the first thing that was proved is that they couldn't prove beyond all reasonable doubt that they were guilty, and secondly the evidence of police tampering was appalling.
You rightly say it was made from a defence point of view but they really seemed to answer a lot of the main points the police had.
The murder wasn't shown enough and the evidence not talked about as much as i felt they should though.
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i-Ron
10:30 Mon Jan 4
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Unbelievable program. Was hooked. I watched the west Memphis case yesterday too.
They were in a similar position. False imprisonment for a crime they didn't commit for 18 years.
The only way the state allowed their release was if they signed a deal to admit they were guilty but meant they walked away from prison and were unable to sue the state for what happened.
Steven Avery was in the middle of a 36 million law suit. If that's not incentive not to kill someone, and incentive to frame someone I don't know what is. I think he's innocent. What they did to the kid was sickening too.
Shameful stuff.
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Davenport
10:39 Mon Jan 4
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I've just seen Avery found guilty, can't watch anymore.
The fat chief prosecutor, I want him to come to some serious harm.
How can you give a press conference saying that the woman was mutilated, tied up etc etc then just not use any of it in court.
Absolutely stinks!!!!!!!
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motley crue
10:46 Mon Jan 4
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The moral of the story is don't chuck a cat onto the fire when you're younger.
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Mr Anon
10:48 Mon Jan 4
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Great watch, if people liked this, check out The Jinx and The Staircase.
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motley crue
11:10 Mon Jan 4
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I like the sound of those mr anon, got decent reviews.
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flyingV
11:12 Mon Jan 4
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Superb programme, I've been telling everybody to watch it.
Davenport - it's worth watching the last two episodes to see the fat bloke (Kratz) get a bit of a humiliation.
Been looking into it a bit more though, and while it's clear the police were dodgy as fuck, the documentary leaves out a few things - for instance Averys sweat DNA was found under the bonnet of the car.
Be interested to see if anything happens now the series is getting a lot of attention.
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Brucies_Star_Prize
11:44 Mon Jan 4
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I'm 5 episodes in.
After the 3rd episode I was pretty sure he was guilty. Having watched the start of the trial, I'm not so sure.
Either way, the role of the State raises serious concerns.
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i-Ron
11:45 Mon Jan 4
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Davenport 10:39 Mon Jan 4
I did the same but watched the last two anyway. The people involved helping are the same for the West Memphis 3 that got off in the end.
That poor kid Brendan, thick as shit. "Yeah?"
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Davenport
11:48 Mon Jan 4
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Katz got sacked last year for sending mucky texts to the bird of some bloke he was trying prosecute.
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flyingV
11:52 Mon Jan 4
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Davenport - yeah that's the humiliation but I was referring to.
Sending filth texts to domestic abuse victims. The state knew about it for over a year but only took action when the press got hold of it.
My favourite Katz bit is when he told the jury in his closing statement "the presumption of innocence is only for innocent people"
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Sniper
3:10 Mon Jan 4
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For all the issues with our legal system, the American justice system is unbelievable. I haven't watched this yet as I've not got netflix, but I assume the general issues of it are similar to this story, which I think really should be more prominent:
http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/magazine-35096242
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Eddie B
10:09 Mon Jan 4
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Small town corrupt cunts. Unbelievable.
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Nurse Ratched
10:10 Mon Jan 4
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YOU DON'T HAVE NETFLIX??
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Sniper
12:37 Tue Jan 5
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I don't nurse, no
Is that my third strike with you now, seeing as I don't like cats or Paul mccartneys stumpy ex?
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Nurse Ratched
12:39 Tue Jan 5
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I'd forgotten about that.
YOU ARE MY MORTAL ENEMY.
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Sniper
12:48 Tue Jan 5
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*sobs*
We'll always have wentworth prison
Except series 2 as I could watch it but you couldn't for some reason, I forget why
But we'll always have series one - we'll always have jaqs
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